[Dclug] Suse Linux

Sat Nov 1 12:58:40 EDT 2008

Our organization is aligned primarily with Novell - and therefore SUSE in deploying Linux to the mass of businesses out there. After many years of doing this we have seen substantial improvements that have made things better performing and stable from an enterprise point of view.  I have used many distributions of Linux and in each case I had a specific work related or hobby related application I was using the OS for. SUSE still has impressed me as the best of the Windows replacements out there. 

I have not personally worked with OpenSUSE 11 since I am more focused on the enterprise distributions, so I asked one of our people who uses it to comment. 

She said : 

So, for the record, although I recognize that Suse had some seriously pain-in-the-ass package management issues in the 10.x series, right when SLED came out, I think the package management on 11 is outstanding. Clean, easy, love the 1-click install feature. I love the Build Service, which provides incredibly easy, up-to-date packages across a really wide range and helps make sure that software is built in ways that make it friendly across multiple distros. 

While I really like some of Ubuntu's ease-of-use, I personally like the extra flexibility of having a more enterprise-oriented distro that still has all of the eye-candy and fun stuff available, at least on the OpenSuse side. Other distros have a lot to offer, and I'm certainly not going to say that Suse is the only way to go for everyone, but as a web developer, graphic designer, editor, business executive, etc., etc. I really think it's the best for me. 

Now, ask me about the decision to change the sound management in OpenSuse 11, we may have something to discuss. Some things just need to be disabled. :-)

Michael Tanenhaus
Principal
Mavenspire, Inc
7526 Connelley Dr.
Suite A
Hanover, MD 21076
443-433-0106 x575

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From: Ruben Safir <ruben at mrbrklyn.com>
To:Ainsley <ainsley.gibson at gmail.com>
CC:dclug <dclug at calypso.tux.org>, ma-linux <ma-linux at calypso.tux.org>
Date: 10/31/2008 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Dclug] Suse Linux
Ainsley wrote:
> I ran SuSe 10.2 and 9.* for a while back in the day. I revisited 11.0 a few
> weeks ago and it actually seemed to have gotten worse, I suppose the
> bloated-state is what turned me off. Also it is going down the enterprise
> path, kind of the way I think about Solaris? So yeah time to switch. It is
> all in the numbers, the most popular distro...well there is a reason. This
> time democracy wins.
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It has gotten worse and the dependcies now are just unmanageable.

I don't know if Umbunto is better though.  I tried it and switched about 
to SuSE 11

At this point I'm open to new options.  I'm deeply unhappy with all the 
ditro's I've seen of late.

> Ai
>
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Brian Madonna <bmadonna at starpower.net>wrote:
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>> Suse is definitely a bloated pile of junk.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dclug-bounces at calypso.tux.org [mailto:dclug-bounces at calypso.tux.org]
>> On Behalf Of Larry Howe
>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 2:47 PM
>> To: Rahul Murmuria
>> Cc: dclug; ma-linux
>> Subject: Re: [Dclug] Suse Linux
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>> I second that opinion. I started out on Suse 8.x as it had the leading
>> configuration tool of the time (YAST). As soon as Novell bought Suse,
>> the first thing they did was issue a release with a completely broken
>> package management tool. It took me almost an entire day to figure this
>> out because I just assumed that something that worked flawlessly for
>> years wouldn't just completely break one day. Turns out it was a rushed
>> attempt to integrate Suse's package mgmt with some Novell tools. So
>> yeah, Suse is now more aligned with Novell's marketing strategies than
>> it is with actual users.
>>
>> I'm on ubuntu now and have no complaints. I even have my wife on it with
>> almost no complaints which is *REALLY* saying something.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 14:01 -0400, Rahul Murmuria wrote:
>>     
>>> You could use this opportunity to move to a better distro, something
>>> that is designed for users and not the enterprise. I recommend Ubuntu
>>> as it has the benefits of the package management of Debian. Ubuntu's
>>> tag line should speak for itself - "Linux for humans"!!  Cons: None
>>>       
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