[FredLug] Droid vice iPhone

Mon Feb 28 13:13:01 EST 2011

OK....this is slightly off-topic, but it relates. A friend of mine showed me
this video about a comparison of the HTC EVO to the iPhone and this thread
reminded me of it. There is a little strong language in it so don't play it
around the kids or anyone that might be offended by obscenities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com>wrote:

> I had an iPhone until late last year, when I switched to Android.
> I've been very happy with the OS, and the availability of apps for
> everything I need to do (which includes all the stuff Mark listed
> below, but also all those social-networking type things too).
>
> I think the iPhone has the edge in terms of the elegance of the
> interface, but the Android's ability to play nice with lots of
> different styles of working, since it doesn't require an iTunes like
> app to do things like copy music or pictures, is what made me switch.
> And frankly once you place things where you want on its screens, the
> interface difference barely registers anymore.  Plus it has built in
> GPS and voice navigation + search (at least on my Droid X, presumably
> other models too).
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:34:55PM -0500, Peter Larsen wrote:
> > Mark,
> > Besides what I already said, I'm not sure what to add. Start with
> > finding out why she's prefering an iPhone. Go from there. Explain that
> > iPhone is not unique in any way. Maybe take her to a store and try out
> > both an iPhone and Android and let her see it personally.
> >
> > Once you're at the point that RIGHT NOW she can do what she wants to do
> > with both, you can expand and talk about what/where she'll be doing with
> > it in the future. That's where the lock-in problems really come in.
> > Let's say she doesn't like her current wireless provider, with Android
> > she can move to another without loosing her data, functionality etc.
> > Try that with iPhone (cloud idea versus everything stored on a phone not
> > being portable).
> >
> > So if the high-ground isn't good enough I'm not sure what else you're
> > looking for?  Lock-in is bad not because of what you can do NOW but
> > because what you won't be able to do in the future. At least not without
> > paying more money. If that's not personal value add I don't know what is
> > and what it would take to convince someone.
> >
> > --
> >   Peter Larsen
> >
> > On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 21:57 -0500, Mark Walker wrote:
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> > > Thanks, Peter. Besides what she calls the moral high ground (and it
> is!)
> > > I need to emphasize to her also that there is the practical side that
> > > you pointed out; that point is freedom from vendor lock-in.  If I can
> be
> > > successful here, she could be a very effective "evangelist" for open
> > > source.  It's an opportunity I hoping not to lose.  All persuasion
> > > points welcome.
> > >
> > > "Red pill" or "blue pill;" it *does* matter, in spades!  Maybe not the
> > > best analogy?  Or right on target?
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > On 2/27/11 9:16 PM, Peter Larsen wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 21:08 -0500, Mark Walker wrote:
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> > > >> Help! My wife is looking at getting an iPhone, and I'm trying to
> > > >> convince her to get an Android instead.  She wouldn't be using
> things
> > > >> like the FaceBook app, but instead would use the phone for taking
> > > >> pictures and email, besides phone calls and texting.
> > > >
> > > > I'm using Android and it does all of the above and lots more. The
> > > > argument I would use is that of economics. Remind her, that the cost
> is
> > > > not only that of the phone, but keeping a proprietary Windows around.
> > > > Also, remind her that all applications are under Apple's control. We
> > > > have seen situations now where they are denying people to develop
> > > > applications that does NOT use the apple-store, like retrieving books
> -
> > > > Nook's application to buy e-books were taken off the iStore for this
> > > > very reason. And it's just the beginning. So if apple decides that
> her
> > > > favorite application is no longer profitable or in line with their
> > > > strategy she stands to loose it.
> > > >
> > > > I wouldn't use the functionality strategy. There isn't much of a
> > > > difference. There's upgrade paths, provider selection and non-vendor
> > > > lock-ins. Since I don't own an iPhone (and never will) I cannot speak
> to
> > > > battery life, screen brightness etc.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe the question to ask is "Why not Android?" and start with the
> > > > answer. My guess is, you'll find the answer in line with "It's what
> > > > friends use" or "it's what I know". Help her see the other side of
> the
> > > > coin so to speak. The choice is really easy once you realize how
> locked
> > > > in you are with iPhone.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > - --
> > >
> > > Mark Caldwell Walker
> > > Contact info at marwalk.tel
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