[Ma-linux] [Novalug] FIOS available: should I?

James Ewing Cottrell 3rd JECottrell3 at Comcast.NET
Sat Jul 24 18:21:56 EDT 2010


Firewalls? Your own router is probably doing NAT anyway, so no 
connections can be made unless you open them or provide explicit 
forwarding rules. A router should not be doing DNS. It's not hard to set 
up your own caching server. Or run dnsmasq with Google's 8.8.8.8 and 
8.8.4.4 as forwarders.

Why would I want to look at logs?!? Are you a router geek? Besides, 
their packet counts should be identical to the ones in your own router 
since there is no place else to go.

Still, it's disconcerting that their routers aren't better. Maybe you 
can get the equipment they use for Business Internet but just pay for 
the home service?!?

JIM

On 7/24/2010 2:02 PM, Kevin Dwyer wrote:
> One good reason to supply your own equipment is that theirs (Verizon's
> router) is junk.  Get over about 40-50 connections and the thing will
> start to freeze up.
>
> Another is so that you can have fine grained control over your
> connection.  The Actiontec router can do simple firewalling, but
> that's it.  You can't even really log the traffic that's flowing
> through it - you're stuck with packet counts and rough bandwidth
> figures.  It reminds me of the old school Ciscos.
>
> -kpd
>
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:22 PM, James Ewing Cottrell 3rd
> <JECottrell3 at comcast.net>  wrote:
>    
>> What is the motivation. There is the concept of the Demarc(ation Point).
>> Everything on My Side belongs to Me and Everything on Their Side belongs to
>> Them. So why not put your router behind theirs?
>>
>> I live in MD too, so I have Comcast, and they call their new "cable modem"
>> box an EMTA, which does Internet, Phone, and TV.
>>
>> The EMTA connects to my internal Linksys Wireless Router via an Ethernet
>> cable.
>>
>> The only reason I'd want their box in front of mine is if the EMTA did port
>> filtering there, but I doubt that is the case.
>>
>> JIM
>>
>> On 7/22/2010 8:40 AM, Kevin Dwyer wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Joseph Brinkley
>> <brinkley.joseph at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> My issue with FiOS is the proprietary hardware. I want to use my Expensive
>> Cisco Router i put DD-WRT on :)
>>
>>
>>
>> It can be done; I've seen the complicated version in person.  If you
>> don't need cable, it's pretty simple to replace the VZ router.  If you
>> do need cable, there is a complicated setup that still keeps the VZ
>> router alive for the cable boxes but puts your router in control of
>> the traffic.
>>
>> -kpd
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