[Ma-linux] Verizon Payment Frustration
przemek.klosowski at nist.gov
Mon Jan 23 10:26:50 EST 2012
On 01/20/2012 04:25 PM, John SJ Anderson wrote:
> On Friday, January 20, 2012 at 15:56 , Janina Sajka wrote:
>> I think the problem there is that all the cable is buried. Has Verizon
>> taken on FIOS deployment where they need to dig? I'm unaware they have,
>> but it would be instructive to find out they have.
> Yep, they came through my neighborhood a few months back (like, late
> summer time frame) and put in cable. They didn't dig _trenches_ or
> anything, but they did make holes -- I assume there's some sort of
> existing right-of-way down there that they were just pulling cable through.
So the standard method for installing this is to dig manholes/pullboxes
every two houses, and push an underground conduit between them. The
manholes are in the 'right-of-way' easements between the houses, so they
technically don't have to ask homeowners' permission after they get the
municipality permits. Such easements are a long-standing law---Verizon
didn't create them for FIOS, they just use them, just like any other
utility company. They are supposed to notify owners and fix damage
caused to the lawns, though.
The 'push' machines are pretty singular---you must have seen them on
the road; they look like a trailer with a not-quite-horizontal stack of
tubes, and a mechanism to push the tubes underground, helped by pumped
water (so there's a tanker truck nearby when they're working). They can
push the tubes underground for about 50-100 yards. Hilarity ensues when
they hit something else while pushing---there was a sad dugout in my
neighbourhood where they hit a junction box with hundreds of phone
wires and had FIOS and landline people work on fixing it for several weeks.
They do dig a trench from the manhole to your house, when you order the
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