[Novalug] Ubuntu, SuSE installations and old gear
larkoc at iges.org
Tue Aug 21 09:49:13 EDT 2007
Robert W. Rowe wrote:
Greetings One and All!
Not intending to start a distro war, but to respond to Mr. Rowes comment
"is SuSE a more mature distribution......", I personally believe it
depends upon the hw to which one is installing. I bought a box set of
SuSE 10.0 from CompUSA Dec 2006. It would only partly install on two
of my computers. For the record, Fedora Core 6 would mostly install on
the same two boxes, but FC 6 did everything except network! I switched
to Ubuntu Breezy Badger and then Kubuntu Feisty Faun on the two system.
Now that install was essentially flawless for me; wireless networking
and printing and everything.
I am installing to older hw (no sATA disks, for example). So I think
the install depends upon the hw it's trying to match. I believe all
of the three distros I mentioned would install on my older hw; it's just
which one required the least amount of effort by me. In my own
individual, personal case, it was (k)Ubuntu.
> I have an old dual CPU box running AMD MP1800+'s at 1.8 mHz each with two
> gigs of memory, an ATI AGP card, etc., etc. It has a Phoenix bios I
> haven't updated because, in essence, it would thrill me to no end to flash
> the BIOS, commit a faux pas and not be able to use the machine.
> I have a two-drive SATA card and a USB 2 card installed to bring the
> system into the early 21st century.
> Anyway, Bill's neat little "let's check to make sure everything's
> legitimate" executable stopped svchost.exe from running, which pretty well
> stops XP from running, so I decided to go with Linux again.
> After looking around I decided on Kubuntu 7.04, so I ISO'd a bootable DVD
> and tried an installation. No good. I got this error (not sure what the
> actual numbers were following Debian):
> "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu2) Built-in shell (ash)
> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands
> /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
> Peachy. So I ordered up and tried an official Ubuntu 7.04 installation.
> Same error. Tried live booting from either disc, same error. Tried a safe
> graphical installation as suggested on various forums. No good. Couldn't
> find the 360GB SATA drive, the one the system found pretty handily on
> Using an update CD is mentioned in the pre-boot menu on the
> installation/live boot DVD. So I tried various ways of using the SATA
> drivers on an update CD, to no avail. Nope. No good.
> So, I had a SuSE 10.2 disc from a magazine I bought a few weeks ago while
> researcing what was up and about in Linux since I last looked at it--when
> the above machine was new in the late 20th century--and tried that.
> A flawless installation. SATA--no problem. "Expert"
> partitioning--wonderful. Printing--well, I have a HP 8450, so that's going
> to be a problem with any distribution, as far as I can tell.
> So, is SuSE a more mature distribution or is Ubuntu/Kubuntu geared toward
> newer hardware with SATA in the BIOS and all that? Or was SATA even the
> The SuSE installation seems to be working pretty well for me, even though
> YaST seems a little slow and too "all inclusive." I've used Red Hat/Fedora
> before and RPM's were okay, but I was looking forward to some of the
> apt-get action I've read so much about.
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