[Novalug] thinkpad terminal emulation

DonJr djr1952 at hotpop.com
Fri Dec 14 07:07:35 EST 2007


On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 03:10 -0500, Julia Christianson wrote:
> Hi Don,
> 
> DonJr wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 00:34 -0500, Julia Christianson wrote:
> > 
> >>The other problem I'm having -- and this was true with CentOS, Fedora,
> >>and Kubuntu -- is that using the cursor keys in vi in insert mode,
> > 
> > Why are you even touching anything but the "standard terminal keys"
> > while using vi? <GRIN>
> 
> Heh, I was feeling around to see if I could run across them, but it
> didn't work out too good.  Afraid I didn't meet vi after keyboards
> began to have cursor keys ...
> 
> > And since you got a defined behavior then maybe with only a minor
> > adjustment to the terminfo file are by adding a simple vi macro is all
> > that's needed to get some useful results.
> 
> Ah, terminfo, that's the sort of thing I was looking for.  But I
> reckon I'll need to read up on it before I go messing around with it
> .... I can easily imagine making the wrong change, and how do you fix
> it if your terminal doesn't work?

Then you shell in from a remote-(alternate)-terminal and repair things.

Something like I had to do a month or so ago when my nVidia e-GeForce
video card DIED.
  I need to find me a replacement.

  As NOW connect to the system from a REMOTE (sometimes on the same LAN)
by 'ssh' and then launch/start my X-session display in a "vncserver"
session and then display it on my remote-display by "vncviewer"

> >   Are you could just use a more feature rich editor like maybe
> > notepad<sGRIN>.
> 
> Very funny.  But actually I was thinking I should find something a bit
> more intuitive than vi for my sister to use when she needs to edit a
> file.  Any [serious] suggestions?  I tried nano, but it's not a whole
> lot more intuitive than vi.

For a "Terminal" type of editor I'd suggest:
  mcedit

which part of mc (GNU Midnight Commander file manager)
  <http://www.ibiblio.org/mc/>

It lot like the old-old(as in "the before time") MS-DOS(2.0? and 3.??)
"EDIT.COM" or the original "norton commander" editor was. 

> >>  [It's a little unnerving to see
> >>VT100 in that list labeled "historical" though I guess it's better
> >>than "antediluvian".]
> > 
> > What do you mean by "VT100 in that list labeled "historical" "?
> 
> The keyboard choices in Konsole are 'linux single', 'Solaris', 'VT100
> (historical)', 'VT420PC', and XFree 3.x or 4.x ... the first serious
> computer I got my hands on had VT100 (well, VT102) terminals -- that's
> where I learned the ascii escape sequences -- and it just came as a
> bit of a shock to be labeled (historical) by extension ...

> One other weird thing about this issue ... last night I was editing a
> file in the shell account on my ISP (which runs Debian) and I
> experienced this same behavior (but this was from my old desktop, not
> the new laptop).  My first reaction was OMG, it's catching!  I know
> I've never experienced it there before.  I can see a few workarounds
> but it seems such a basic thing, I just feel like there should be a
> simpler answer.
> 
> -- Julia

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