VIQ Kate (was Re: [Novalug] Printing question)

[Beartooth]

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Megan Larko wrote:

>> Depends on what you consider a decent editor. Here are some 
>> graphical editors in Fedora Core:
>> * Emacs
>> * vim enhanced
>> * gedit
>> * jEdit
>> * NEdit

 	I have the second, and keep meaning to tackle vilearn; 
the default when I open an editable file from the desktop (using 
Nautilus, I guess) is gedit, which the menus usually just call 
"Text Editor." I do all right with that on things like trimming 
down my .bash_history (when, say, I hit paste at a command prompt 
and get a paragraph of text instead of what I expect).

> One I have not yet seen mentioned is gvim.  It is a GUI for vi. 
> All the little icons are there so folks don't have to remember 
> the toggle functions.  I'm a vanilla vi person myself (although 
> truthfully I had to be dragged kicking and screaming to vi 
> almost 20 years ago, but it was the only editor on the *NIX 
> system at that time).
>
> Now I have vi and gvim on our systems for those who flat-out 
> refuse to use an non-GUI tool.
>
> Just adding one more tool to the toolbox.
>
> megan

 	Yum tells me gvim is provided by some (unnamed) other app 
I already have; but I don't find it in the main menu. Does it, of 
all things, have to be invoked from the CLI??

>> * mcedit
>> 
>> If you want to use Kate you might as well install KDE:
>> Code, so try:
>>    yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)"

 	That found 23 already installed and latest; updated four; 
installed compiz-kde, konversation, kpowersave, and ktorrent; and 
also installed compiz-manager and libcompizconfig for 
dependencies. I presume all three kates are in some of those.

 	I never touch any form of chat, and normally make sure 
none is installed, on the perhaps outdated theory that it just 
means needless potential vulnerability. Paranoia? Or can I at 
least remove konversation?

 	I don't care much about kpowersave and ktorrent -- 
they're superfluous and I'd rather eschew them, but I suppose 
they can just sit there harmlessly.

 	But compiz worries me. I installed some new glitzy thing 
recently, which eventually turned out to be the source of 
conflicts that made the machine unusable. Discussion on Gmane 
eventually established that "metacity --replace" fixed it -- and 
thereby identified the culprit, which turned out to be a window 
manager. (I had supposed, from pirut's description, that it was 
just some amusing or possibly useful eye candy.) I'm not sure any 
more it was compiz -- is that related to beryl and emerald?

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