[Novalug] [steve.langasek@ubuntu.com: Ubuntu JeOS 7.10 released]

[DonJr]

On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 23:49 -0500, Oscar Merida wrote:
> DonJr wrote:
> > Even more to the point:
> >    What is "Just Enough Operating System"?
> > 
> > Lets look at ubuntu_minimal:   Minimal core of ubuntu
> > For version 1.43 as used by Ubuntu 7.04 here is what this object
> > DEPENDS on:
> > 
> I think its pointless to criticize ubuntu here, since its not trying to 
> be a minimal OS, just a minimal OS for the Desktop that an average PC 
> user can use.
> 
> If you want a really minimal distribution, there are  others you should 
> look at, from slackware to puppy linux to rolling your own.  Of course, 
> you'll likely be sacrificing some convenience, and having some stuff 
> just work. But if you're on older or less capable hardware, or just want 
> to run a minimal server box ...
> 
> -Oscar

But even a DeskTop type distribution {which Ubuntu is} shouldn't include
stuff that the user is likely to never need.

  (The sound support isn't required for Ubuntu "advance" Server level
install, which Ubuntu now supports.(*1*)}

  aptitude - Has had some MAJOR bugs and/or security problems in the
past.   (Plus I plain and simple don't like it's user interface. <GRIN>)

Wireless - Like I said a lot of the simpler hardware that Ubuntu was
designed to work on. See "Ubuntu Philosophy"
 <http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/philosophy>
has no such hardware and most likely will never have such.
  Plus the two packages that I listed are very easy to install when such
support is required.

Grants you "dhcp3-client" and "eject" where me beginning to nit pick, as
those packages are far more likely to be used, but....


(*1*) -- One of the first application's (utilities) that I ever wrote
used sound (well the BELL which it rang in different sequences) to tell
the operator what was going on and/or going wrong, but that was only
because I didn't feel like writing an actual display interface. <GRIN>
  (note: It's usage pre-dated the release of PC-DOS, by a few years.) 

Early IBM pc's use to BEEP in different sequences to tell the operator
at what point in the boot-sequence that something went wrong and or
worked.

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 Don E. Groves, Jr. 

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