[Novalug] best way to back up a home partition.

DonJr djr1952 at hotpop.com
Thu Sep 20 18:02:52 EDT 2007


I don't think that it's a bad idea to mix the command line and GUI
tools. In fact I do it all the time. The mix that I use are:
  Synaptic  -- I like it's GUI interface the best
  wajig   -- more of a command line front end to 
  gjig    -- the GUI front end to wajig
  update-manager  -- that thing that download updates in the background

  apt-get  -- need I say more
  dpkg {-and friends dpkg-query} 
  deborphan - Orphaned package finder
  orphaner - frontend for deborphan

The only one I've had any problems with is: 
  aptitude

and that's mainly with it's 'AUTO' features.
Plus I don't like it's user interface at all.

-- 
  DonJr

On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 16:12 -0400, Megan Larko wrote:
> DonJr wrote:
> 
> Hello List,
> 
> I use kUbuntu and Adept GUI for package updates.  (I use package up 
> dater or PUP on my CentOS 5 box, fyi.)
> 
> I still use command line apt-cache, apt-get, and friends to install 
> packages.  The Adept GUI seems to get the information from  my 
> apt-whatever commands and find patches updates when needed.
> 
> All of that said, is the command line and GUI tool a bad idea to mix?
> 
> megan
> 
> > On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 14:50 -0400, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
> >> DonJr wrote:
> >>> Just wait until it UNINSTALLS the "auto" installed kernel-package you
> >>> are currently running, because it doesn't think that package is
> >>> "required" anymore.
> >>>  {-: It will happily do that and has recommended such incorrect actions
> >>> in the past. :-}
> >>>   
> >> I wouldn't know, but I've heard that if you use aptitude from the 
> >> beginning to manage all the packages things like that don't happen.
> >>
> >> Angelo
> > 
> > Sounds like that might work in theory, but not even the Ubuntu-installer
> > uses aptitude to do the base install.
> > 
> > In all versions of Ubuntu to date that I've installed there are a few
> > packages that have caused me problems because of there OVER-stated
> > requirements and when you uninstall them {or Ubuntu decides one need
> > updating} and later on update the kernel-package Aptitude get into the
> > cycle of wanting to uninstall any kernel package that isn't currently
> > required by something, because if aptitude didn't install something it
> > defaults to assuming that the package was an AUTO-install [*1].
> >  The packages are 'ubuntu-minimal' and 'ubuntu-standard' these packages
> > descriptions even say:
> > 
> > | It is safe to remove this package if some of the minimal system
> > | packages are not desired. 
> > 
> > My Desktop and Servers don't need 'Wireless', 'pppoe', or 'pppconf'
> > support, they are connect by Network-cards and cables to a central
> > hub/router. There are also a number of other packages that these
> > packages require that are not nessesarily part of a minimal functioning
> > system IMHO.
> > 
> > [*1] Funny thing neither apt-get or synaptic have this problem.
> > I can switch back and forth between them and dpkg without any problems.
> > 




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