[Novalug] best way to back up a home partition.
DonJr
djr1952 at hotpop.com
Thu Sep 20 18:02:52 EDT 2007
I don't think that it's a bad idea to mix the command line and GUI
tools. In fact I do it all the time. The mix that I use are:
Synaptic -- I like it's GUI interface the best
wajig -- more of a command line front end to
gjig -- the GUI front end to wajig
update-manager -- that thing that download updates in the background
apt-get -- need I say more
dpkg {-and friends dpkg-query}
deborphan - Orphaned package finder
orphaner - frontend for deborphan
The only one I've had any problems with is:
aptitude
and that's mainly with it's 'AUTO' features.
Plus I don't like it's user interface at all.
--
DonJr
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 16:12 -0400, Megan Larko wrote:
> DonJr wrote:
>
> Hello List,
>
> I use kUbuntu and Adept GUI for package updates. (I use package up
> dater or PUP on my CentOS 5 box, fyi.)
>
> I still use command line apt-cache, apt-get, and friends to install
> packages. The Adept GUI seems to get the information from my
> apt-whatever commands and find patches updates when needed.
>
> All of that said, is the command line and GUI tool a bad idea to mix?
>
> megan
>
> > On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 14:50 -0400, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
> >> DonJr wrote:
> >>> Just wait until it UNINSTALLS the "auto" installed kernel-package you
> >>> are currently running, because it doesn't think that package is
> >>> "required" anymore.
> >>> {-: It will happily do that and has recommended such incorrect actions
> >>> in the past. :-}
> >>>
> >> I wouldn't know, but I've heard that if you use aptitude from the
> >> beginning to manage all the packages things like that don't happen.
> >>
> >> Angelo
> >
> > Sounds like that might work in theory, but not even the Ubuntu-installer
> > uses aptitude to do the base install.
> >
> > In all versions of Ubuntu to date that I've installed there are a few
> > packages that have caused me problems because of there OVER-stated
> > requirements and when you uninstall them {or Ubuntu decides one need
> > updating} and later on update the kernel-package Aptitude get into the
> > cycle of wanting to uninstall any kernel package that isn't currently
> > required by something, because if aptitude didn't install something it
> > defaults to assuming that the package was an AUTO-install [*1].
> > The packages are 'ubuntu-minimal' and 'ubuntu-standard' these packages
> > descriptions even say:
> >
> > | It is safe to remove this package if some of the minimal system
> > | packages are not desired.
> >
> > My Desktop and Servers don't need 'Wireless', 'pppoe', or 'pppconf'
> > support, they are connect by Network-cards and cables to a central
> > hub/router. There are also a number of other packages that these
> > packages require that are not nessesarily part of a minimal functioning
> > system IMHO.
> >
> > [*1] Funny thing neither apt-get or synaptic have this problem.
> > I can switch back and forth between them and dpkg without any problems.
> >
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