[Novalug] Re: fios install question

[Jon LaBadie]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 04:42:32PM -0400, Chris Sykes wrote:
> Oh wow, that feels like a step backwards to me on verizon's part. I
> have a straight ethernet run that would have been to my actiontec.
> 
> Curious, I wonder what protocol they run from the setupbox to the ONT
> back to the actiontec. Docsis perhaps? I see why you have to keep your
> actiontec then. :/
> 
> Apologies for not comprehending earlier.
> 
> Is this standard for installs now?
> 
> 
> -Chris
> 

I can't speak for "standard", but I can describe my install
from last November.

>From outside box, which someone called an NID, fiber goes in,
lots of coax and one CAT 5 line comes out.  Most of the coax
feeds TV outlets.  There are eight direct, unsplit coax feeds.
Six of them feed outlets where we have, or might have in
the future, HD TVs.  A seventh connects to a splitter to
feeds several more TV outlets.

The installer recommended not using the lower signal levels
caused by the splitter for HDTV.  The direct and split feeds
can be rearranged as needed.  And if we need more than six
HD set top boxes, a second fiber and second NID box can be
installed.

The eighth coax and the CAT 5 lines go to the ActionTec
router.  I suspect, but don't know for sure, that the CAT 5
could feed a different router/switch and the switch feed the
ActionTec.  But I think the ActionTec does need a feed from
the NID even if indirect.  At least it does if you have
FiOS TV and want the widgets and maybe interactive things
like Pay-Per-View.

The coax feed is for IP traffic over the coax, basically
from to and from the set top boxes.  They get IP addresses
via DHCP from the ActionTec, a range above X.Y.Z.100 in my
case.  Computers that request IP addresses are assigned
lower numbered addresses.

jon

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> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:37 PM, greg pryzby <greg at pryzby.org> wrote:
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> >  coax is what connects to my actiontec. they didn't run ethernet and I
> >  dont' currently have it. I do see the STB on the router though!
> >
> >
> >
> >  Chris Sykes wrote:
> >  > @greg
> >  >
> >  > Interesting. My actiontec has a coax port on it that I actually run
> >  > straight to my STB. Perhaps they have changed models and setup the ONT
> >  > to allow direct access to the fios network over coax. My install is
> >  > almost 2 (or is it 3?) yrs old now.
> >  >
> >  > @all
> >  >
> >  > Yea I never tried to use the actiontec wireless but the configuration
> >  > options in the web interface were pretty lackluster so I wasn't very
> >  > interested to begin with.
> >  >
> >  > If you don't have to worry about coax then why even use the actiontec
> >  > box (assuming you have a better router and wireless setup)?
> >  >
> >  > @greg
> >  >
> >  > Question, what is the coax to your office for? Another tv line?
> >  >
> >  > -Chris
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:57 PM, greg pryzby <greg at pryzby.org> wrote:
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> >  >>  I am really confused about the actiontec -> coax -> set top
> >  >>
> >  >>  I have a coax into my office
> >  >>
> >  >>  I have coax to the set top
> >  >>
> >  >>  They both are from the NID (or whatever the box outside my house is
> >  >>  called). There is no cable that leaves my actiontec and to my set top box.
> >  >>

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