Might want to go to comp.mail.pine and look at the thread called "Another pro-(Al)pine rant." It's about big Gmail inboxes, and there's a link, by Mark Crispin, to a link you may want. -- Beartooth Implacable, Neo-Redneck Linux Enthusiast Freedom is my issue : I'm pro-choice, pro-right-to-die, pro-gun, and pro-term-limits. Without defiance, no liberty.