[Novalug] Where is Linux today?

[Kevin Chin]

Jay, the distros out there can't be everything to everyone.  I'd think most
users (including Linux savvy and non-savvy) want to see functionality out of
the box, not to have to pick and choose.  There are those that want to start
from scratch and build up (like you're describing).  We've seen that mostly
in those interested in appliances and similar models though. Still, maybe
you should start with one of those instead... :-)

I have not had a chance to try it out, but I thought I heard there's a new
"minimal" install pattern in openSUSE which does only the basics, and lets
you add what you want/need.  Anyone had a chance to try it?

That said, there are many options on the "Just Enough OS" (appliance)
front...

Ubuntu has a version:
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos
openSUSE has a version:  http://en.opensuse.org/LimeJeos
SUSE Linux Enterprise has a version:  http://www.novell.com/linux/appliance

and several other options at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_enough_operating_system_(JeOS)

TTYL.
--Kc


On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Jay Hart <jhart at kevla.org> wrote:

> JL,
>
> I've been installing Linux since the days of floppy disk sets.
>
> While it is easier to install now than it was back then, (mostly because
> one
> bad FD would screw you) it still is painful.
>
> For example, when I tried to install Suse 10.3 on my box for the first
> time, I
> did not do a "default install" (meaning just installing whatever packages
> had
> been marked for install) as I tried to actually remove and add packages
> during
> package selection.  The result was a totally broken system, the root and
> user
> modules failed, meaning I had no users on the system, not could I add them
> after a reboot. The type of packages I would mark as "don't install" for
> example would be the development group.
>
> I'm sorry, THAT CRAP shouldn't ever happen.  Adding and removing packages
> to
> me is a very BASIC step during installation, else why would you NOT have
> all
> packages marked for install.  Its so you have choices...
>
> So, not sure why you mention "selective amnesia", but you are free to
> elaborate.
>
> Jay
>
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 02:10:51PM -0400, Jay Hart wrote:
> >> > As to install fests, maybe the installer software has gotten to a
> >> > point that they are not so necessary for the typical geek and the
> >> > typical linux "customer" is no longer one who will install an OS
> >> > themselves, but will pay a consultant to install and maintain the
> system.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I have to call BS on this one,
> >
> > I suspect this means you did not attempt to install linux
> > several years ago, or you have selective amnesia ;)
> >
> > jl
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