[Novalug] OSS Calendaring - Zimbra or Scalix - time needed to learn?
Paul D. Bain
paulbain at cox.net
Sat Jun 21 23:31:37 EDT 2008
---- greg pryzby <greg at pryzby.org> wrote:
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Thank you for your helpful reply.
> All I know is getting something up and getting something to meeting your
> needs are not necessarily the same.
Yes, I should have made it clear that I was trying to draw a distinction between merely installing a software package, on the one hand, and configuring that package well enough to make it useful and error-free, on the other hand. I apologize for not making that distinction more clear.
> That said, I have found that I can use Ubuntu/Debian and get something
> installed and working (80% or more) pretty quickly. Especially a turnkey
> type solution like mail, server stuff, etc. While things where I need to
> generate content and build something (drupal, alfresco, RoR, etc) I can
> get it installed but creating the content is much 'harder'
Yes, I agree. Thanks again.
> Paul D. Bain wrote:
> > Ken Kauffman wrote:
> >> With Zimba, you need to make sure you have an SMTP entry in your DNS
> >> before configuration. Zimba is not too hard to install as long as all
> >> dependencies are met. It helps you sort them out. If you are going to
> >> use it with your company, I would suggest you look at a support option
> >> and pay for Zimbra. Also, they have additional purchase options such as
> >> a BlackBerry push plugin among others. It's a solid product -- plus
> >> Shawn just said RedHat just rolled it out -- so it's bound to be
> >> supported for quite some time.
> >> An experienced admin should be able to get a demo server up in a day easily.
> > Ken,
> > Thank you for this valuable information. I greatly appreciate your
> > making this reply. I still do not know how long it might take me to
> > learn how to configure Zimbra, however, and, in my experience with open
> > source software (OSS), this period of time can be considerable and
> > forbidding. Indeed, these days, I generally do not even like to
> > investigate an OSS until I know how much time I need to invest in
> > learning how to configure it. In the past, on many occasions, I have
> > spent considerable time learning how to configure an OSS but then
> > abandoned the effort when I realized that the benefit to be gained was
> > not likely to be worth the cost (in time).
> > Sincerely,
> > Paul Bain
> >> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Paul D. Bain <paulbain at pobox.com
> >> <mailto:paulbain at pobox.com>> wrote:
> >> Shawn Wells wrote:
> >> > +1 to that. We just got done rolling it out internally at work.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Ken Kauffman wrote:
> >> >> Zimbra
> >> Shawn or Ken,
> >> Could one of you tell me how much time an experienced Systems
> >> Administrator and Web Administrator would need in order to learn how to
> >> install, configure, and learn Zimbra? Do the RPM's install fairly
> >> easily? Is the use of either Yum (or the like) recommended? I suppose
> >> that Debian packages for Zimbra are still not available, but, actually,
> >> I have not checked recently.
> >> What other investments of time are required in order to get
> >> started
> >> with Zimbra? In particular, how much learning is required?
> >> I have investigated the various OSS counterparts to M$ Exchange
> >> over the years, especially these: Zimbra, Scalix, and OpenExchange. I
> >> have never actually learned any of them due to the investment of time
> >> that each seemed to require, however, and had hoped that, over time,
> >> they would become easier to install and learn. Has that happened? Over
> >> time, have they become easier to install and configure?
> >> Sincerely,
> >> Paul Bain
> >> >> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Zakai Kinan
> >> <titanyen2000 at yahoo.com <mailto:titanyen2000 at yahoo.com>
> >> >> <mailto:titanyen2000 at yahoo.com <mailto:titanyen2000 at yahoo.com>>>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone know of a server based calendaring system with the
> >> >> following features:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Has client that sync with server.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2. Client can sync with a smart phone.
> >> >>
> >> >> 3. Server send reminders to different people in an address
> >> book.
> >> >>
> >> >> So far mozilla sunbird is the best candidate. Am I missing a
> >> >> better one?
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