[Novalug] [Ma-linux] [FOSE] Starting the discussion

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FLOSS is fine. In the term though, is it free beer or speech (I don't
know anymore as I haven't kept up with the political stuff).

As an aside a point I made was, solutions that solved problems were
important to show. How you did was discussed after the viewer agrees
the solution works for them.

My experience is most people don't care the detail (implementation) of
the solution. Instead,

Does it work?
Does it meet my requirements?
How much does it cost ($ now for product rolled out and running)?

If it is open isn't as important (different question and I agrue it
is) but could be a positive or negative.


On 10/4/08, Serge Wroclawski <serge at wroclawski.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 01:18:40PM -0400, Rich Goodwin wrote:
>> As I raised at today's NOVALUG meeting, I believe a discussion as to
>> what the message(s) should be at the FOSE booth would be beneficial
>> (assuming we get a booth again).
>>
>> Some questions I heard bantered were (and this is not exhaustive by any
>> means):
>>  1.  Should this be a Linux or Open Source push? or both?  (OpenBSD
>>      participated in the past)
>
> Rich,
>
> After the last time you brought up an event, you said, in some way, that the
> discussion was healthy and that you thought the issue of
> naming sensitivity, if not the naming itself, was important.
>
> In response to my request that you give Free Software equal mention, I was
> flamed and slandered, nonetheless as one whose not persuaded
> by bullies, I bring the issue up again:
>
> Why do you not use the term Free Software, or at the very least, FLOSS, in
> giving both sides equal opportunity?
>
> As for issues of OpenBSD, I would guess that doing so would depend on your
> objective, which you never explicitly state. Once you know
> what it is you're trying to accomplish, I think these other issue fall into
> place.
>
> If you only care about "Linux" as a viable option to Windows or the Mac, it
> seems counter-intuitive to bring up OpenBSD, which is a
> competitor.
>
> If you're interested in promoting the ideas of Free Software and the
> diversity of those ideas, OpenBSD becomes an interesting choice as
> they take the issues of Free Software seriously but in ways which differ in
> implementation from that of the FSF (to the point where
> they take harsher stances on things like firmware blobs than the FSF).
>
> If you're interested in promoting the community (which is a fuzzy concept
> I've been spending some time thinking about lately) then you
> might find it's better to bring in other groups entirely to come with you.
>
>>  2.  Should we present solutions? or tools?
>>          - Can/should commercial products be considered in our message?
>>          - Should we push the back-end or the desktop?
>
> Whose your audience (I know who goes to FOSE, whose YOUR audience).
>
> - Serge
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