[Novalug] VA Health records held ransom
brinkley.joseph at gmail.com
Wed May 6 13:02:35 EDT 2009
Very honest out look, no that is is said i agree with you. WTF and Who the F
is responsible for this it shouldn't be us. Something else i am taking pride
in lately is trying to go to congress and get company's held responsible for
their Code and programming mistakes. (eg. Adobe.MS).
(......I began to rant on my opinions how and why is the consumer and end
user responsible for company's mistakes I figured I would spare you in the
But yes in the end that is a perfect world Jay!((we don't live there)
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jay Hart <jhart at kevla.org> wrote:
> I'm sorry, Joe, but your company put my private data on a server that could
> accessed "somehow" via the web. Now my data gets stolen and you want to
> "monitor" my credit to protect me.
> Sure, I'll go for it, 24x7 support, I have the ability to lock and unlock
> credit as many times a year as I need to in order to conduct legitimate
> business. You call me whenever you think something looks fishy. You don't
> store my entire SSN, just last four. You're responsible for any breach
> this time. I have final say about any potential policy changes, etc. ANY
> breach starts the year over.
> Sure, I'm game, just YOUR PAYING FOR IT.
> Disclamer: Joe's company didn't do this. I'm using him as an example.
> On my personal credit issues. Since I didn't create my problem, I didn't
> think I should pay to fix it, so I didn't sign up for a plan. If this
> wanted to fix this type of problem (identity theft), it would be standard
> policy for the credit reporting companies to lock down your profile and
> you open it vice having you jump through hoops to close it. Of course
> card companies and businesses wouldn't make money this way, buy hey, tough.
> INAL, but when my credit gets stolen again, I'm just going to sue any
> who fraudulently sends me a bill in the mail. It won't be my problem to
> to them it wasn't me, it will be up to them to prove it was me. In other
> words, show me video prove, or forget it. Four companies have video
> the criminals who got me, and I want to see it.
> > LOLO this is funny to be honest.
> > FYI it is cheaper to let him keep the records.
> > the company can just give them all monitoring on there credit for a year
> > around 30-50 bucks per person(and that is only if they know to ask for
> > I am not sure if Jay will agree yea to the individual it sucks. but in my
> > opinion it is better to have a credit monitoring system in the end. i pay
> > 9.95 a month.
> > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Bonnie Dalzell <bdalzell at qis.net>
> >> On Wed, 6 May 2009, Dan Arico wrote:
> >> >
> >> > There's another question that ought to be raised in view of proposals
> >> a
> >> > national medical database. Just how secure is *it* going to be?
> >> >
> >> > Dan
> >> this is a question that I have worried about a lot. the comuter user
> >> public (as in a number of my clients and friends) has a much greater
> >> degree of trust in the reliability and security of their computers than
> >> do. This is obvious when you repeatedly hear about people loosing all
> >> of their digital family photos when a harddrive dies, etc.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them,
> >> > One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them,
> >> > In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie.
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