[Novalug] fedora 12 upgrade

[jerry w]

well back when this 500 GB drive
was new preupgrade was an option,
now that it's full, not so much...

or clean up after meself and try it.

FWIW: Preupgrade 10 - 11 went OK
for me, took much longer than I had expected,
as I'm a packrat and always wondered
if the se contexts and other stuff had
to change, also didn't get EXT4
nor fresh install re formatting
to clear out the gunk in the file system.

Will see which I try this time.
So F12 is out...?



On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:16 PM, greg pryzby <greg at pryzby.org> wrote:
> Next time I will read it very closely.... I skimmed it many times and missed
>
> PARAPHRASING
>     preugrade is supported
>
>     yum is not supported but has worked for others
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Bryan J. Smith <b.j.smith at ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>> [ Commenting on-list ]
>>
>> I've commented on this several times around October 25th.
>>
>> Again, at the top of the "YumUpgradeFaq," you have your answer.  ;)
>>
>> Pre-Upgrade pre-downloads all required packages for Anaconda,
>> installs the Anaconda installer/upgrader to the hard drive, and you
>> boot into it.  Obviously, like virtually all other processes and systems,
>> booting into a separate kernel, system, temporary mounts, etc... that
>> are not the ones normally running is going to be ideal.**  That, among
>> other things that the entire Anaconda stack does, really makes it the
>> most ideal.**
>>
>> YUM just does it on the live system, with the running kernel, same
>> system, real, live mounts, etc...  It often works and works quite well.
>> Linux, after all, can reload even the core C libraries without a reboot,
>> and there is even a way to load a newer kernel without a reboot
>> (which some distros now support).  I've used both APT-RPM and YUM-
>> RPM over the years to do "live" YUM upgrades between Fedora
>> versions.
>>
>> Of course I've run into a few cases where YUM took an issue whereas
>> Anaconda knew about that change and handled it auto-magically.  So
>> Pre-Upgrade -- which is the YUM "resolve and download-only" with the
>> Anaconda stack installed to the HD -- works best for people who aren't
>> experienced with Linux and YUM/Fedora.
>>
>> -- Bryan
>>
>> **NOTE:  I cannot stress enough the idea of booting into an alternative
>> system that a "live" one.  After years upon years of embedded Linux,
>> when rolling out thousands of units to critical infrastructures (e.g.,
>> trading
>> and related financial systems), booting a unit into a separate, "down"
>> mode can really prevent a lot problems, even if it has to be schedule
>> as "downtime."  It's honestly worth it.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: greg pryzby <greg at pryzby.org>
>>
>> BUT.... what is 'recommended'?
>> I can't believe they are 'equal'
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:23:19AM -0600, Beartooth wrote:
>> >>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, greg pryzby wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> >I see 2 options
>> >>> >   preupgrade
>> >>> >
>> >>> > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/ch-upgrade-x86.html
>> >>> >
>> >>> >   yum upgrade directions
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> > >http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq#Instructions_to_upgrade_using_yum
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Curious as to which I should use....
>> >>>
>> >>       Fwiw, I've had no trouble with preupgrade.
>> >
>> >>The only hitch can come if you don't have sufficient space in /boot,
>> >>which can happen for people who keep a lot of kernels around, or who
>> >>are using a < 200 MB /boot partition.  The newer preupgrade release
>> >>simply does a better job of checking for and alerting about problems
>> >>before it runs into them.
>
>
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Jerry W