[Novalug] plus some other issues, including Re: Fedora 11 problems

[jerry w]

more inline

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Bryan J Smith <b.j.smith at ieee.org> wrote:
> Couple of comments ...
>
> 1.  The great thing about a standard document language with
> heavily standards review (OASIS for years before ISO) is that
> you have a choice in the application.
>
> 2.  Yes, check the link light first, although it's all shared medium.
> Power-line baseband works fine because the gage is thick and
> the 50-60Hz doesn't interfere with the MHz low-voltage
> signaling.  As mentioned before, put these up at pastebin:
> - lspci
> - /var/log/messages (from you last boot time)
> - /etc/sysconfig/network and network-scripts/ifcfg-*
> - /etc/resolve.conf, /etc/hosts, standard stuff
> At least the first two to start, then the third and fourth
>
lspci is small
/var/log/messages can be a big file,
and I'm not sure pastebin is something perpetual
newbie or others will figure out, so the solution
doesn't work depending upon the experience
level/ energy level of the person presenting the
problem.
the other config files in /etc seem small.
I don't know if this mailman / list will handle attachments
instead.
I've noticed yahoo will put the attachment
on the files section and add a link to it,
thereby not filling 100+ members email boxes
and clogging the mail server.

> 3.  Resellers should recognize the customer is always right,
> and if the customer asks for Ubuntu, then they should either
> ship it or refer the customer to another reseller, etc...
> System76 sells Ubuntu standard and they have very price-
> competitve solutiions (especially notebooks - great specs for
> the price), and all Linux consumers I've talk to them  like them.
> NOTE:  I've never purchased from them, but will for my next
> notebook (I actually want Fedora, but will leave any pre-installed
> Ubuntu should they install it).
>
I think it is more a matter that System2000 is an Alexandria
vendor that has parts, etc.  I've been there, and they have
some stuff and reasonably close by.

I doubt they would do custom Linux Installs, and
hence why install/tweakfests are so good
for users groups.

I only wish I had brought more stuff
(was rapidly approaching a limit of time/ space/
lifting) like a Gateway notebook I've forgotten the
power on (bios) password that google email
search says have to call gateway for support,
and no one is saying a hardware drain the cmos
type hardware solution doesn't work.

plus the original Hackintosh type install/
tweak that was discussed on list,
but not sure we addressed.

> --
> Bryan J Smith - mailto:b.j.smith at ieee.org
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: greg pryzby <greg at pryzby.org>
> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:12:24
> To: Charles M Howe<cmhowe at patriot.net>
> Cc: <novalug at calypso2.tux.org>
> Subject: Re: [Novalug] Fedora 11 problems
>
> On 10/17/2009 05:49 PM, Charles M Howe wrote:
>> List,
>>
>> Skip over the next three paragraphs plus the one word paragraph that
>> reads "BUT ..." if you have no patience for the whining of Charlie the
>> Perpetual Newbie.
>>
>> In preparing for last Saturday's event I had the dealer I deal with,
>> Advanced 2000 in Alexandria, build a new machine. I am happy with what
>> they gave me for the price they charged (but I would have asked for a 2
>> 1/2" disk if the discussion about that versus 3 1/2" drives taken place
>> sooner.)
>>
>> BUT ...
>>
>> I asked that nothing be installed, but it didn't happen that way. They
>> installed Fedora 11 and said they installed Ubuntu. which they know I
>> like. But, I said to myself, OK, dual boot. And when I got to the
>> library and booted, I liked what I saw.
>>
>> Do to several fumbles on my part, it wasn't possible for Greg, Jay and
>> others to spend much time on my machine, and what time they did spend
>> was devoted to trying to get a printer to work. So I was on my own, and
>> I try stuff out. I love Abiword, but I don't see where it differs from
>> OO's word prosessor.
>
> There are people that people Abiword is better and are pushing that for
> various reasons. One reason I hear is because it is easier to help
> submit patches and enhancements. I DON'T KNOW.
>
> You can easily install open office
>    System -> Administration -> Add/Remove Software
>    In upper left corner, search for
>       open office
>
>> The (THE) problem is that I can't get online. The background is as
>> follows. My house was built in 1961 and previous owners fiddled with the
>> telephone wiring with the result that I have many phone jacks but none
>> of them were able to handle DSL. So I got a separate line to a
>> downstairs study. That was a clean line which could handle DSL. I bought
>> a Linksys router but couldn't make a wireless connection. Circumstances
>> required me to move out of that room. I was able to connect using a
>> couple of Netgear "Powerline" gizmos in the room on the first floor that
>> I moved into.
>>
>> So I put my computer with Fedora 11 in another room on the first floor
>> and expected to be able tp get online using another Powerline gizmo.
>> Nope.
>
> Check the back of the computer where the cable it plugged in, there
> should be at least 1 light on. If not, it is a cable problem. Or
> powerline thing. NOT a linux issue
>
> In the upper RIGHT corner of the screen you should see (right to left)
>    Date/time
>    Sound icon (speaker)
>    World, two computers, something similiar
>    LEFT click on 3rd icon from right
>    Should be a pop-up w/
>       Wired Network
>          *SOMETHING* eth0 (circle to left that may or may not be filled)
>    RIGHT click
>       click on EDIT CONNECTIONS
>    In pop up
>       Click on WIRED
>    There should be a *something* eth0
>
> Let us know what you see and we can probably assist in getting you on
> the internet.
>
> I tried to google and there is NOT a good write up w/ images that I
> could find :(
>
>
>> A couple of other things.
>>
>> I could click on "Applications", "Places" and "System" and use
>> everything (but am puzzled by USER-PC (What's the point?).
>
> Windows like and it is on Ubuntu also (GNOME).
>
>> One puzzlement goes like this: When I do Applications -->  Office -->
>> Dictionary and type in a word, it comes back
>>    Error when retrieving the definition
>>    Lookup fails for 'dict.org': Unknown error
>> Does that mean nothing more than that I an not online?
>
> Yep
>
>
>> Can anyone recommend a good Fedora 11 textbook? Unleashed costs 60 bucks
>> at Borders and my favorite online shop, Bookpool, is defunct. I have
>> never done business with Amazon.
>
> I can't.
>
> Configuring the internet w/ GNOME is the same for Ubuntu and Fedora.
> Using the GUI, there isn't a big difference. It is when you get to the
> command line and want to install or configure something via terminal
> that you will see differences.
>
>
>
>> I feel like I earn the right to occasionally sign myself
>>
>> Charlie the Perpetual Newbie
>
>
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