John, A while back tux.org relocated the webpages for the various LUG mailing lists. The URL path no longer includes "cgi-bin/" but is otherwise identical to the old path. NovaLUG.com has not updated its mailing list links. Jon -- Jon H. LaBadie jon at jgcomp.com JG Computing 12027 Creekbend Drive (703) 787-0884 Reston, VA 20194 (703) 787-0922 (fax)