[Novalug] Old Vs New was: Re: Kernel configuration foropticaldrive.

[Bryan J Smith]

My comments were 100% directed at those who know who
they are.  If you run old hardware and don't take issue with
new hardware, etc... because you don't want to, you're probably
better for it.  You avoid the rat race.  No problem here.  By
"old dogs" I mean those who complain about everything they
don't stop to understand, just like some mechanics (and even
more wannabe / I know better mechanics).

Even I carry an old, unlocked Blackberry and always stay years
back.  People feel the need to make fun of me, but I don't feel
the need to complain about the new models. When I choose
to get something new, I read, I learn and I ask.  People even
say I can be a bit too self-deprecating, but it works and shows
I don't let my pride get in the way from learning, or frustrating
the good folk who take the time and help me.

As far as name-calling ... please!  It's pathetic to call me out
when people use poor language, get upset with those who
honestly want to help, etc...  I don't take issue or get upset
and definitely don't get upset with the meta-arguments.  They
are just distractions from the fact that people are asking
for help, and others are providing it.

I'm always and continually amused with the number of meta-arguments,
and how many people will try to shift the focus from learning,
including blaming others, complaining with the "in my day" rhetorics
and - in general - want to ensure everyone knows their pain.
Pass the popcorn please, and do continue with the non-questions.  ;)

Because I'm sitting back with a smile.

--  
Bryan J Smith - mailto:b.j.smith at ieee.org  
http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ed James <edward.james at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:18:54 
To: <novalug at calypso.tux.org>
Subject: Re: [Novalug] Old Vs New was: Re: Kernel configuration for
	opticaldrive.

Well, Bryan,

   You either missed or ignored my original point.  Money.  Lemme
spell it out again.

* Why spend money to upgrade hardware/software if what I have does everything I
need? *

I issued a challenge to the group.  Your name-calling, as I stipulated
earlier, isn't a
proper motivator for at least two reasons.  Hearing no proper answers,
I declare that
the challenge has not been met.

You also seem to make some rather odd assumptions.  Some of us old-dogs do
keep up with tech - as I said, pay me and I'll work on anything.  But
if it comes
out of my pocket, I'll use my wetware.   I'm not sure you understood
what "upgrade
the wetware" means.  Ever notice how many professional mechanics work on
current tech vehicles, but drive old vehicles?.   Incidentally, I *do* repair my
current, late-model vehicles.  But I repair them to factory specs, rather than
seriously modifying them, since serious modifications are no longer as easy
as they once were.  In a similar manner, I help neighbors and members of my
local computer club with new tech constantly.  My decision to stick with my old
gear comes from experience, not "whatever-you-think-it-is".

Ed James



On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Bryan J Smith <b.j.smith at ieee.org> wrote:
> *EXACTLY* like "old dog" mechanics who don't understand
> newer cars, and spend their entire time complaining and learning,
...
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